Crossing the road

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Crossing the road

Postby davidhembrow » Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:36 am

In many places, crossing the road takes a very long time because pedestrian and bicycle crossings are set up to favour drivers even when there are no cars visible. That's not the case at many crossings in The Netherlands. For instance, watch this youtube video showing a crossing which always gives pedestrians and cyclists a green light to cross within eight seconds of pressing the button (there's also a loop under the cycle-path which detects bikes).

On my blog I've written about several other examples of how it can be made easy to cross the road in safety.
Read the blog: http://www.aviewfromthecyclepath.com
Dutch infrastructure Study Tours: http://hembrow.eu/studytour
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Re: Crossing the road

Postby Rebecca » Sun Sep 08, 2013 9:33 pm

I look twice when I see a child under the age of fourteen crossing the street at our major intersections; it is so unusual.
Our traffic lights are timed to cause the least amount of delay to motor traffic. In the US motor vehicle traffic and pedestrians traveling in the same direction are given a green light at the same time. This creates a problem for pedestrians crossing because they have to contend with right turning traffic. In an attempt to resolve this problem pedestrians may be given a a walk signal a few seconds ahead of the green light for motor traffic. We have a few intersections where pedestrians are given a four-way crossing which allows pedestrians to cross diagonally as well as straight across with out fear of a car turning into their path. I love crossing at those intersections.
When I was in Amsterdam in June, I saw many children traveling to school. I did not notice any crossing guards. There are crossing guards here near the schools to stop traffic. Perhaps the need for crossing guards is symptomatic of poor infrastructure design.
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Re: Crossing the road

Postby Bryce P » Mon Sep 09, 2013 10:36 am

We have school crossing patrols at zebra crossings outside schools. Tome, all it does is encourage drivers to drive across zebra crossings without stopping, almost creating a behaviour.
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Re: Crossing the road

Postby wangell » Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:05 pm

Bryce P wrote:We have school crossing patrols at zebra crossings outside schools. Tome, all it does is encourage drivers to drive across zebra crossings without stopping, almost creating a behaviour.
How so?
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Re: Crossing the road

Postby Andre Engels » Mon Dec 16, 2013 12:29 pm

wangell wrote:
Bryce P wrote:We have school crossing patrols at zebra crossings outside schools. Tome, all it does is encourage drivers to drive across zebra crossings without stopping, almost creating a behaviour.
How so?

I suppose what Bryce means (and he may correct me if I'm wrong, of course), is that people get used to have crossing patrols telling them they should stop, so when there are no crossing patrols, they just drive on, whether or not there are pedestrians at the zebra.
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